Re: Is consciousness real?

From: <equinox9.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:46:30 -0800

Ha ha....

Yeah I've been working on the same format of ideas as you mentioned. It's
really fascinating. It's almost like there this is certain truth and it's
literally right in front of our noses, but in addition it is very easy to
miss this interesting truth.

Martin Marcel.

----- Original Message -----
From: James Higgo (co.uk) <j.domain.name.hidden>
To: <equinox9.domain.name.hidden>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Is consciousness real?


> That's quite a surprise: someone who understands what I said!
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> From: <equinox9.domain.name.hidden>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Is consciousness real?
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <hal.domain.name.hidden>
> > To: <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>; <hal.domain.name.hidden.org>; <j.domain.name.hidden.co.uk>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: Is consciousness real?
> >
> >
> > > James Higgo writes:
> > > > Consciousness - a flow of related thoughts in time - does not exist,
> any
> > > > more than time itself exists. All that exists of 'you' is this very
> > present
> > > > thought.
> > > >
> > > > This simple view solves all known paradoxes of consciousness, fits
> with
> > what
> > > > we know of the world, and is, incidentally, in concord with Buddhist
> > > > philosophy. You can even be happy if you believe it; believing it
> forces
> > you
> > > > to live in the present.
> > >
> > > This solves all the problems, does it? What about the question of
> > > whether something, say an animal or a fetus, is conscious or not?
> > > Should I treat conscious and unconscious entities the same?
> > >
> > > And if consciousness doesn't exist, does that mean suffering doesn't
> > > exist either? Should we not care about slavery, torture and other
> > > institutions that cause human suffering?
> > >
> > > I think you have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.
> > >
> > > Hal
> >
> >
> > Hal,
> > Go back and re-read -EXACTLY- what James is saying.
> >
> > >All that exists of 'you' is this very present thought.
> >
> > Re-read it, look at it, contemplate it, meditate on it, think upon it,
> dwell
> > on it .......then tell me if this statement is true or false.
> >
> > Take care....
> > Martin.
> >
> > BTW ---IF you see the validity of this statement, you will move into an
> > entirely different "universe" then you will ever have experienced in
your
> > life.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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