Re: Extra Terrestrials+

From: Russell Standish <R.Standish.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 05:39:45 +1000 (EST)

John Mikes wrote:
>
> We don't colonize the galaxy. There is more to it:
> WE may be the colonized world. The zookeeper is hidden (sometimes revealed
> in revelations) and we just provide nourishment (without really knowing:
> what). (Ideational porocucts? emotions? doubt? not flesh).
> The colonization may use dimensions beyond our comprehension, maybe viruses
> are the masters' Earth-used tools with their adaptive capabilities beyond
> our control. (referring to the the varieties of resistant strains that
> survive our feeble intrusion with drugs). They let us play around with
> physics and biology of our development. Also: to "feel" smart.
> A more advanced variation: the 'masters' are from another universe in the
> Multiverse, where capabilities evolved to visit universes (which we lack)
> and so they found the spot here where a 'colony' of unknown services could
> be establishe and evolved. Their impact may have started at the stage of an
> evolved thinking tool with implanting religious ideas to impose their rules.
>

I hope you have your tongue in your cheek.

> Whoever has evidence against such history should say so. I don't accept
> plain ignorance.

What about Occam's razor?

>
> John Mikes
> jamikes.domain.name.hidden
> "http://pages.prodigy.net/jamikes"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russell Standish <R.Standish.domain.name.hidden>
> To: everything-list.domain.name.hidden <everything-list.domain.name.hidden.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1:21 AM
> Subject: Extra Terrestrials
>
>
> >I've just finished reading "Extraterrestrials: Where are they?" by
> >Zuckerman and Hart. It really scotches the idea that SETI might
> >actually be successful, even though the Fermi paradox is a bit
> >overdone "Any ET civilisation of substantial duration would have
> >colonised the Galaxy by now. So where are they?"
> >
> >However, Gott raises an interesting point. Anthropic reasoning eg
> >Doomsday argument really rules out galactic colonisation - at least
> >for our reference class. It would appear that the Doomsday argument is
> >in direct contradiction with the Fermi paradox. I am rather
> >uncomfortable about this, and my preference would be to accept the
> >Fermi paradox argument over the anthropic reasoning.
> >
> >Any comments?
> >
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Dr. Russell Standish Director
High Performance Computing Support Unit, Phone 9385 6967
UNSW SYDNEY 2052 Fax 9385 6965
Australia R.Standish.domain.name.hidden
Room 2075, Red Centre http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks
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