Re: Natural selection (spinoff from "History-less observer moments")

From: Russell Standish <R.Standish.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:04:35 +1000 (EST)

Jacques Mallah wrote:
>
> --- Russell Standish <R.Standish.domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> > Jacques Mallah wrote:
> > > > R.Standish.domain.name.hidden writes:
> http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks/docs/multiverse/
> > >
> >>>>need to apply the self sampling assumption, namely
> >>>>that we expect to find ourselves in an anthropic
> > > > >principle consistent history that is nearly
> > > > >maximal in its measure.
> > >
> >> I was surprised to see this because here RS uses
> >>the SSA in a way that cuts across different
> "people",
> > > i.e. he uses the ASSA. If he believes the ASSA
> > > then by self consistency he should not believe the
> > > RSSA/QTI.
>
> > Now, nowhere in this paper, nor in any other, do I
> > discuss the ASSA vs RSSA business.
>
> Irrelevant. You still use it (ASSA) just not by
> name.
>

That's what you think!

> > For third person events both ASSA and RSSA are
> > equivalent, and all I discuss in this paper are
> > third person events.
> +
> No, the RSSA is incapable of comparing the measure
> of two different people because it denies that measure
> means anything except "relative" to one person. The
> only type of "third person" events the RSSA can be
> used for, are really just events seen by the "same
> person" but which don't happen to affect that person's
> survival.

Not true. Multiple observers sharing the same history will see the
same RSSA measure (or effective probability) for third person events
(independent of any of the observers). Their only disagreement is over
measure of events that affect one or other of the observers -
particularly if that event results in the death of one of the
observers.

I know you don't believe in histories Jacques, however in this you
must follow my dialectic, not impose yours.

> In the case the multiple people involved are those
> which see various kinds of biological histories.
>

Sure, but what's your point?

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