RE: History-less observer moments

From: Higgo James <james.higgo.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:35:18 +0100

This thought -> this thought is not special -> there are many thoughts ->
the simplest way to have many thoughts (Kolmogorov) is to have all thoughts.

No excursion into a physical world, no hypothesis on the nature of reality
required.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alastair Malcolm [SMTP:amalcolm.domain.name.hidden]
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 May, 2000 2:44 PM
> To: meekerdb.domain.name.hidden; everything-list.domain.name.hidden.com
> Subject: Re: History-less observer moments
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brent Meeker <meekerdb.domain.name.hidden>
> .
> .
> > It seems to me that these discussions are sometimes confused as
> > to whether the argument is going to take a Cartesian direction from
> something
> > we perceive directly -- "there is a thought" -- to the apparent physical
> world
> > or instead to assume some Platonic ideal --- the ensemble of all
> logically
> > possible worlds -- and try to show that it makes us and our world at
> least
> > probable. These are both interesting approaches and need not
> contradict;
> but
> > it gets muddle when one slides from one to the other.
>
> There is no problem for several of us in going (not on logical
> consequence,
> but on reasonable assumptions) from
> (1) 'This thought' -> 'apparent physics-governed world' -> 'all logically
> possible universes'.
>
> The problems can occur when instead people do things like
> (2) 'This thought' -> 'all possible thoughts'
> or
> (3) 'This thought' -> 'this monad' -> 'all possible monads',
>
> where, if (2) and (3) do not bring in something akin to physics at some
> stage, they will fall foul of what is effectively the white rabbit problem
> (aka induction failure problem), unless some other factor can be invoked
> which effectively gives priority to simpler universes / ordered thoughts.
>
> Alastair
>
>
>
>
>


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