Re: Quantum Time Travel

From: <GSLevy.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:27:46 EST

In a message dated 02/26/2000 4:01:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jqm1584.domain.name.hidden writes:

> On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 GSLevy.domain.name.hidden wrote:
> > jqm1584.domain.name.hidden writes:
> > > Ok, maybe you can clarify something since that doesn't make much
> > > sense to me. Suppose one wanted to keep objectivity and
consciousness.
>
> > > What would such a theory be like?
> >
> > You would have to give up (first person) relativity and this would be
your
>
> > theory I guess. However, it would be problematic. Giving up first person
> > relativity goes against Everett's assertion that no observer state in
> > superposition is privileged. In other words, giving up first person
> > relativity implies that there is an absolute real observer state and all
> the
> > other observer states are imaginary. This approach would be incompatible
> with
> > the MWI.
>
> That doesn't make any sense. The real problem is you still have
> not explained why you think the three (MWI, objective reality, and
> consciousness) are incompatible.
> Obviously they aren't. I believe in all three. All conscious
> observer states are objectively real.
>
IF there is such a thing as an observer (based on experience, also
Descartes' "I think")
THEN there is CONSCIOUSNESS (by definition)

IF no observer state in superposition is priviledged ( by Everett)
THEN the observer states are relative to each other,
          thereby upholding RELATIVITY for the observer states (by Everett)

IF the frame of reference in RELATIVITY interaction is the observer
state itself
         (by definition)
THEN the so-called objective point of view is really a subjective point of
view
         thus upholding SUBJECTIVITY (by definition)
        (Note: Observer state include not only physical state but also mental
state)

Therefore: Consciousness, Relativity and Subjectivity

This is as good and as clear an explanation as I can make.

George Levy
Received on Sat Feb 26 2000 - 21:30:26 PST