Re: Quantum Time Travel

From: Jacques M. Mallah <>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:28:18 -0500 (EST)

On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 wrote:
> writes:
> > On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 wrote:
> > > Since I do not buy the concept of objective reality, I do not
> >
> > Then you are no better than a Copenhagenist. It's precisely the
> > fact that non-belief in objective reality is a form of insanity that
> > spawned the MWI in the first place.
> The Copenhagen school lost faith in the power of reason and they did not
> believe 100% in QM. They failed to explore the full implications of QM
> (without the wave collapse phenomemon).
> Einstein who opposed the Copenhagen School, died in 1955 in Princeton. That
> same year, a young graduate student, Hugh Everett III, joined Princeton
> University and two years later, under the guidance of John Archibald Wheeler,
> he published his doctoral dissertation which he called a "Relative State
> Formulation of quantum mechanics" in the Reviews of Modern Physics, Volumer
> 29, No. 3, pages 454-462, July 1957. This paper clearly positions him as a
> relativist.
> Einstein claimed that no observer in an inertial frame is privileged; Everett
> asserted that no observer state in superposition is privileged. Everett had
> the courage and vision to continue the quest that Einstein started. He is the
> true inheritor of Einstein's mantle.

        It is well known that Einstein believed in an objective
reality. That's why he made the EPR argument to Bohr.
        Everett did indeed extend the work of Einstein. That part I agree
with. Like Einstein, he believed in an objective reality. When he talked
about observers in a superposition, he clearly believed that they exist in
some objective sense. That's how he could go beyond Copenhagen.

> Jacques, to call me "no better than a Copenhagenist" shows me your true
> measure and your unfortunate lack of comprehension in this matter. I am a
> relativist.

        No, you yourself said you're a subjectivist, anti-realist. That's
the problem, not the fact that you don't privilege one term in a
superposition, because neither do I.
        As far as your own measure I took that long ago.

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