Re: Dreaming On

From: Bruno Marchal <>
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:54:51 +0200

On 29 Aug 2009, at 20:34, Flammarion wrote:

> On 28 Aug, 18:02, Bruno Marchal <> wrote:
>> On 28 Aug 2009, at 17:58, Brent Meeker wrote:
>> If the physical laws are turing emulable, then whatever is
>> responsible
>> for my consciousness can be Turing emulable at some level (I assume
>> some form of naturalism/materialism or computationalism).OK? If not,
>> your brain (generalized or not) does not obeys to the laws of
>> physics.
> That may buy you no more than "mere" simulation. The CTM is a
> stronger claim than the computability of physics. it means that you
> will
> get actual implementation (strong AI) and not just simulation (weak
> AI)

In that sense, I am OK here. Actually strong AI is even weaker than
CTM. My reconstitution can believe wrongly that he is me, yet
conscious. But I was assuming some naturalism here, and if the
physical laws are computable, and I still say no to the doctor, then
my identity is no more defined by the computation, but by the actual
matter which constitutes me, and then comp (CTM) is no more correct
(although strong AI could still be correct).


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