Re: Bayes Destroyed?

From: marc.geddes <marc.geddes.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:03:55 -0700 (PDT)

On Aug 29, 6:50 pm, Brent Meeker <meeke....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> marc.geddes wrote:
>

>
> > Ok, probablistic/axiomatic, none of it works without the correct
> > priors, which Bayes can't produce.  
>
> Bayes explicitly doesn't pretend to produce priors - although some have
> invented ways of producing priors with minimum presumption (e.g. Jaynes
> maximum entropy priors).  Analogical reasoning doesn't produce priors
> either and it can produce false conclusions too.

Actually, I think that's exactly what analogical reasoning *does* do
(analogies can produce priors by biasing thoughts in the right
direction by viewing reality through the 'lens' of categories -see
above, analogy is categorization),


>
> > I do.  I think Bayes is just a special case of analogical reasoning ;)
>
> Then you can say analogical reasoning is just a special case of
> reasoning.  Which then proves that reasoning is more fundamental than
> analogical reasoning.  Then will you claim to have destroyed analogical
> reasoning. ??
>
> Brent-

No, I think the buck stops with analogical reasoning, since no form of
reasoning is more powerful. Analogical reasoning can produce priors
and handle knowledge representation (via categorization), Bayes can't.
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