Re: Emulation and Stuff

From: Bruno Marchal <>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:33:28 +0200

On 19 Aug 2009, at 22:26, Flammarion wrote:

>> I understand both your discomfort with arithmetical realism and your
>> defence of PM, but this discussion hinges on "CTM +PM = true".
>> Couldn't we try to focus on the validity or otherwise of this claim?
> OK. It's invalid because you can't have computaiton with zero phyiscal
> activity.

This could be a critic to Maudlin's Olympia argument, it does not
apply to MGA. Precisely, it does not apply to MGA1+MGA2 (see the MGA
thread). MGA3 makes a link between Olympia and MGA, but is not needed.

MGA1+MGA2 shows that if we accept the physical supervenience thesis,
then we have to accept that consciousness supervenes "in real time" on
the movie of a computation, which, I think, is already ridiculous. In
MGA3 the stroboscope illustrates this, without reducing any physical
activity at all.


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