Re: Dreaming On

From: Bruno Marchal <marchal.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:41:56 +0200

On 07 Aug 2009, at 10:09, Quentin Anciaux wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> 2009/8/7 Torgny Tholerus <torgny.domain.name.hidden>:
>>
>> Bruno Marchal skrev:
>>>
>>> Then it is not "RITSIAR" in the sense of the discussion with David.
>>> Real in the sense that "I" am real. is ambiguous.
>>> Either the "I" refers to my first person, and then I have
>>> ontological
>>> certainty.
>>> As I said on FOR, I can conceive that I wake up and realize that
>>> quark, planet, galaxies and even my body were not real. I cannot
>>> conceive that I wake up and realize that my consciousness is not
>>> real.
>>>
>>
>> When I woke up this morning, I realized that my consciousness was not
>> real...
>
> Like before... If you are a zombie, the sentence above has no
> meaning... (there exists no 'I') and if you're not, either you're
> deluded or you 're lying ;)


Or you have a good sense of humor.
The idea of a dreaming zombie, waking up to realize that he was
dreaming being conscious, is rather funny.

Bruno



http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/




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