Re: Dreaming On

From: 1Z <>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:46:38 -0700 (PDT)

On 27 July, 18:17, Bruno Marchal <> wrote:
> On 27 Jul 2009, at 14:57, David Nyman wrote:
> > On 27 July, 09:31, Bruno Marchal <> wrote:
> >> The UDA is a reasoning which shows that once we postulate an
> >> "ontological"  physical universal, it is impossible to recover the
> >> first person from it
> > Do you mean to say that we can't recover the 1-person from a physical
> > universe on the assumption that the mind is a 'computation' executed
> > by elements of a physical brain, or that it can't be recovered *in any
> > manner* on the assumption of 'physical ontology'?  I've always assumed
> > the former - which is the one attacked in your thought experiments;
> > the latter would be a much stronger and more startling claim, to say
> > the least.
> It is the former. Typical counter-example are provided by most dualist  
> religions, but they have to be anti-comp.
> Even with comp, you can always add a physical ontology, but you cannot  
> use it to explain any correlation between consciousness and what  
> happen in that physical ontological universe.

Yes you can: the physical brain executes the computation, so naturally
the consciousness resulting from the computation and the brain
are correlated.

As usual, when you say "comp" you mean "comp+plat".

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