On 27 July, 12:25, Kim Jones <kimjo....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> >> Could somebody kindly tell me/explain to me what "RITSIAR" means? I
> >> cannot find any explanation of this in the threads which mention it.
On a (slightly) more serious note, to the best of my recollection the
expression 'real in the sense I am real' was introduced to this list
by Peter Jones some time back, and was contracted to RITSIAR (I think
by me) because it was repeatedly referred to, as is happening again.
The original sense was that we already intuitively grasp what
'reality' in this sense is - i.e. starting with personal reality, or
simply the 'first person' - and that if we allow these intuitions to
get lost in, or hopelessly mangled by, any schema purporting to tell
us what is 'really real', then we're getting fooled in some deeply
perverse way. That's why I've been badgering Bruno - as Peter also
did - about whether the 'number realm', as specified by COMP, is to be
conceived as being real in this sense: because COMP is based on the
notion that we *are* in some sense numbers, or derived from numbers
and their relations. So if numbers in the COMP sense don't meet this
criterion of RITSIAR, then (according to me) we couldn't possibly do
so either, and I'm saying that nobody in their 'right mind' should be
prepared to accept this. However, I'm reasonably satisfied by Bruno's
recent remarks: he does respond to the issues more or less as set out
here.
David
> On 27/07/2009, at 11:40 AM, Brian Tenneson wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Kim,
>
> > RITSIAR means real in the sense that I am real.
>
> > Cheers
> > Brian
>
> > Kim Jones wrote:
>
> >> Could somebody kindly tell me/explain to me what "RITSIAR" means? I
> >> cannot find any explanation of this in the threads which mention it.
>
> >> Sorry to be dumb,
>
> >> Kim
>
> Much obliged to you Brian. Hopefully, by the end of this "conversation
> without end" I will know in what sense I am real!!
>
> cheers,
>
> Kim
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