Re: Dreams and Machines

From: Brent Meeker <meekerdb.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:46:02 -0700

Brian Tenneson wrote:
> Hi Brent,
>> You are asserting monism. But the One, the ur-stuff, is ineffable/unknowable.
>> So when we place ourselves in the world it is by making distinctions within the
>> unity. To become distinct from the background (the One) is what it means to be
>> RITSIAR. Right?
>>
>> Brent
>>
> How do you know that the One, the ur-stuff, is ineffable/unknowable? If
> your being, for example, was the ur-stuff (I assume you mean akin to
> urelements in set theory), then it is "effable" and knowable.
>
> You have written about it, and at least two of its properties, and so it
> is not completely ineffable, yes?
> So I think it is "effable" even if it is exceedingly difficult to
> describe fully. What I'm having trouble believing is that it is unknowable.

In the above I was trying to paraphrase what David wrote. I don't have a final
theory, but if I did it would include some ontology and that would be effable
(no point in having a theory you can't use to theorize). But even if I did I
don't think it would be possible to *know* that it was the final theory. So
it's unknowable in that sense.

Brent

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