On 02 Jul 2009, at 00:22, John Mikes wrote:
> I don't deny the practicality of applying 'numbers-based' science in
> sending a man to Mars, but it is NOT the numbers that does the job.
> It is the complexity of the state of the art we reached, which
> includes science, technology, skills, ideas AND of course numbers-
> application. Bohm's idea - as I understood it - was that searching
> nature, you do not bounce into numbers, you can observe 3-leaf or
> 4legged and manyshaped things, big and small, YOU (the human) can
> 'count them' if you invented the symbols 01 2 03 04 etc. but these
> refer to quantities and it required lots of abstracting in mental
> evolution to arrive in a numbers-based math - how humans think about
> nature.
I know well that theory. It is based on the idea that some primary
Nature exists. A common "superstition" among christians and atheists.
Which could be true, actually. I don't know.
But what I am almost completely sure, is that if comp is true, then it
is has to be supersitution. And that is what I try to explain.
> Thanks again and my mind works in crooked ways, if you can excuse me
> for that. It seems I need too much learning to catch up.
You are welcome. If you have the time and courage, I really encourage
you to follow the thread. You may be surprised ... soon!
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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Received on Thu Jul 02 2009 - 19:52:55 PDT