Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries

From: Torgny Tholerus <torgny.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:38:23 +0200

Jesse Mazer skrev:
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:17:03 +0200
> > From: torgny.domain.name.hidden
> > To: everything-list.domain.name.hidden
> > Subject: Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries
> >
> > My philosophical argument is about the mening of the word "all". To be
> > able to use that word, you must associate it with a value set.
>
> What's a "value set"? And why do you say we "must" associate it in
> this way? Do you have a philosophical argument for this "must", or is
> it just an edict that reflects your personal aesthetic preferences?
>
> > Mostly that set is "all objects in the universe", and if you stay
> inside the
> > universe, there is no problems.
>
> *I* certainly don't define numbers in terms of any specific mapping
> between numbers and objects in the universe, it seems like a rather
> strange notion--shall we have arguments over whether the number 113485
> should be associated with this specific shoelace or this specific
> kangaroo?

When I talk about "universe" here, I do not mean our physical universe.
What I mean is something that can be called "everything". It includes
all objects in our physical universe, as well as all symbols and all
words and all numbers and all sets and all other universes. It includes
everything you can use the word "all" about.

For you to be able to use the word "all", you must define the "domain"
of that word. If you do not define the domain, then it will be
impossible for me and all other humans to understand what you are
talking about.

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Torgny Tholerus
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