Re: Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe

From: Colin Hales <c.hales.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:57:54 +1000

hmmmmmmmm. Some thorts.

:-) I love the 'duncical equilibrium' that is our leadership....sounds
like the 'coalition of the willing'.

He's seems to be a damaged guy, although aren't we all? The infuriating
blindness of the masses (alias the wisdom of the crowd!) gnaws on his butt.

Yes....we need a cognitive Einstein, but there's a possibility he would
end up the bouncer at the 'bar of the new authoritarian mess', despite
the plan of reality he claims to have. Maybe we are entering an era
where such an approach will save us.... but I'd prefer a 'new
enlightenment' to a pile of 'anti-diseugenics' any day. Doesn't fit my
idea of 'kindness'.

....his use of the word god detaches it from faith...That has to be a
good move.

There's too much focus on the fact of genius and not enough being one.

His endomorphic image of the mind of god translates to what we recognise
self similarity at all scales... and the tautologousness of any
recursive structure.... all of which the folks here will relate to.

He reminded me of the snorefest incremental science factory I inhabit here.

....recent explanatory paper attached.

Charlton, B. G. 'Why are modern scientists so dull? How science selects
for perseverance and sociability at the expense of intelligence and
creativity', Medical Hypotheses vol. 72, no. 3, 2009. 237-243.

It calls for a place to nurture these guys ... these 'strange and
luminous fools' as charlton puts it. I think I might have 1 foot in this
camp ... the idea of it scares me ... but when I introspect....there I
am. Kept from the dungheap by the relentless seeking of truth.

cheers
col



Jason Resch wrote:
> I think these interviews provide a nice summary of his views:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ak5Lr3qkW0
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mfbUhs2PVY
>
> I remember seeing an interview with him on TV about a decade ago and
> being very interested in his claim to be able to mathematically prove
> the existence of god, souls, and life after death, but I don't know if
> he's ever revealed those proofs. It seems with Bruno's testable comp
> hypothesis we can do the same, depending on your definitions of god,
> souls, and life after death.
>
> Jason
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:20 PM, John Mikes <jamikes.domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>
>> Russell, I second (if it is of any worth).
>>
>> I 'tried' to read the diatribes on the html page and my perseverence ws not
>> sufficient to stay in he lines. Some concepts seem to be mixed (I did not
>> say "up") e.g. to identify 'reality' one should get a hold of it and I found
>> 'physical' sketchy (maybe I blurred-up where it was more sorrowly
>> identified). . .
>> It was funny to read about ONE universe in all, spacetime etc. as universal
>> foundations, and so on, I think this list is past such level.
>> About the Ph.D.: I agree, it is a harsh schooling to compose/order ideas an
>> regulate one's thinking (if the tutor is any good). My 2nd one was a lot
>> easier than the 1st one. I don't care too much for titles, but in terms as a
>> mental training I appreciate your position.
>>
>> I don't care too much for high IQs either (was measured once for a job
>> interview and they disclosed upon my threat only that it was >200) - but I
>> assigned it to the metric system I grew into: saved lots of time in the math
>> problems by converting the US units into metric, play with the decimal point
>> and reformed the US units. Which is not much of an intelligence. Other
>> topics in those tests are cultural background related, plus a snobbish
>> preference for certain domains in the cognitive inventory by the organizers
>> of the particular test. People with other background may fail.
>>
>> John M
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:16 PM, russell standish <lists.domain.name.hidden>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I looked into him about a month or so ago, after he'd posted an
>>> unflattering remark about my work. He might have an IQ of 200, but to
>>> put it bluntly, what he writes is "drivel". It may well have a kernel
>>> of truth, and there may well even be original thought in there, but it
>>> is so voluminous and so badly organised it is impossible to tell.
>>>
>>> Basically, my advice to him would be to get a PhD. It doesn't teach
>>> you creativity, but does teach you how to organise and express your
>>> ideas so that others can possibly understand it. But I suspect Chris
>>> Langan is too proud to do this. At least Bruno has done his PhD, and
>>> his work is so much the better off for him having gone through that
>>> process, painful though it was.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 02:08:44PM -0700, rexallen314.domain.name.hidden wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone on this list ever heard of this? A theory of reality
>>>> formulated by Christopher Michael Langan?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ctmu.org/Articles/IntroCTMU.htm
>>>>
>>>> It sounds a little sketchy at first, though not entirely different
>>>> than some of what Bruno Marchal says.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously the main reason to pay much attention to it is that Langan
>>>> has an IQ of between 190 and 210. Which kept me going past the first
>>>> paragraph, which is when I would otherwise have stopped.
>>>>
>>>> But, after further reading it sounds somewhat more plausible. I'd be
>>>> very interested in hearing Bruno's opinion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>>
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