Bruno:
Can you explain your Physics statement in more detail, which I can
understand?
Ronald
On May 13, 11:30 am, Bruno Marchal <marc....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> Thanks Russell, I will take a look. At first sight he makes the same
> "error" with numbers that Wolfram makes with cellular automata. Those
> are still mathematical form of physicalism, incompatible with the
> mechanist thesis in the cognitive science. Of course we converge
> toward rather similar (recursively isomorphic or weakened) ontologies.
> But they seems to believe they can recover some physics from that,
> where, saying "yes" to the surgeon requires to abandon that very idea.
> Physics, like in Plato and Plotinus, is not a mathematical structure
> among others, it is a mathematical structure which relate all
> mathematical structures in a precise way. Physics is somehow much more
> fundamental than being a thing completely describable by a set of
> mechanical laws.
> Pu in another way, such theories are unaware of the mind-body problem
> and still use an identity relation between a mind and a implementation
> of a program which UDA forces to abandon, to be frank.
> This does not mean those works are uninteresting of course, and they
> may play some role in the unravelling of the Minds and Bodies
> problems. Sure.
>
> Bruno
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> On 13 May 2009, at 01:15, russell standish wrote:
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> > Hi Bruno,
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> > Have you come across Victor Korotkikh's stuff? He's got a recent
> > article out in Complexity:
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> >http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/121426751/abstract?CRETRY=...
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> > (Complexity, 14, 40-46)
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> > It basically explores the organisational properties of the integers,
> > prime numbers etc. Which is kind of interesting in a pure mathematical
> > way, but he then uses this to model real complex systems, emergent
> > properties and so on. If you can't get the above paper, here is a much
> > earlier one that is not behind a paywall:
> >http://www.complexity.org.au/ci/vol03/victor2/
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> > I've met him a few times over the years - he's based in Townsville,
> > about 2000km north of here. He's an intense Russian who's presentation
> > is almost impenetrable - but there are people I respect who consider
> > him a genius.
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> > It struck me this morning how similar in many ways his programme is to
> > yours. I suppose you both share a strong neo-platonic viewpoint for
> > starters.
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> > Cheers
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