Re: Consciousness is information?

From: John Mikes <jamikes.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:56:50 -0400

Jason, thanks for your reply.
Those BIG questions? IMO: typical "SO WHAT" ones. AND if we know?
There is one (practical?) point though: knowing some 'right(?)' answer will
reduce our danger to succumb to underhanded assumptions that mostly involve
pressure to do what otherwise we wouldn't do.
(Like killing the religiously 'infidel', or a gynecologist, and the like.
Pay our church-tax and vote as the pastor/political leader said)
And "the truth"? whose?
we live in our 1-pov's mini-solipsism, limited to our own perceived reality
plus the genetic- and experience- formed ways to interpret what we got as
enrichment in the epistemic cognitive inventory and call it 'truth'.
Any further learned information is stored(?) as interpreted into our own
ways. No two persons have identical knowledge, belief, or thinking.

John M

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Jason Resch <jasonresch.domain.name.hidden> wrote:

>
> John,
>
> Great question I am glad you asked it. I think I was driven to this
> list because of big questions, especially those which most people seem
> to believe are unanswerable. Questions such as: Where did this
> universe come from? Why are we here and why am I me? Is there a God?
> What is responsible for consciousness? What is time? Is there life
> after death? Etc. After much reading and thought I am now mostly
> satisfied with the answers I have arrived at, and keeping up with this
> list and the issues people raise on various topics helps me to keep
> updating my models of reality to hopefully become more correct. I
> think it is good mental exercise to ponder the questions people on
> this list raise, and despite all the disagreement, chains of
> assumptions, and inability to test many of the conjectures I think
> this list is slowly making progress toward truth.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:42 PM, John Mikes <jamikes.domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> > Bruno,
> > merci pour le nom Jean Cocteau. J'ai voulu montrer que je semble
> > vivant.
> > I told my young bride of 61 years (originally economist, but follows all
> the
> > plaisantries I speculate on) about the assumptions you guys speculate on
> and
> > connect to assumptions of assumptions, Torgny the zombie, Stephen
> Leibnitz'
> > Monads, you numbers, others Q-immortality/suicide and partial
> teleportation
> > at the level of highest science - and she asked -
> > (because she believes in her love that I am into all that,
> - understanding):
> > "What do you guys hope to achieve by all this speculation?"
> > I replied: it's getting late, let's go to sleep.
> >
> > Well??? (I believe this is the most meaningful word in English)
> >
> > John M
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Bruno Marchal <marchal.domain.name.hidden>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11 May 2009, at 22:49, John Mikes wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > who was that French poet who made puns after death?
> >> >
> >> >> ...
> >> > A french poet said, after he died (!) : "friends, pretend only to
> >> > cry because poet pretends only to dye". (Faites semblant de pleurer
> >> > mes amis puisque les poètes font semblant de mourrir").
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> It is Jean Cocteau.
> >>
> >> In "Le Testament d'Orphée". A movie, made by Jean Cocteau, where he
> >> plays the role of the dying poet. I am not entirely sure of the total
> >> correctness of the quote. It could be "Faites semblant de pleurer mes
> >> amis puisque les poètes ne font que semblant d'être mort".
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Bruno
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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