Re: Temporary Reality

From: Kim Jones <>
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 18:42:59 +1000

On 07/05/2009, at 3:43 PM, wrote:

> I think that knowing what a person is is sort of like knowing what
> consciousness is.

Good. Have you ever had the feeling/hunch/thought/intuition/
apprehension/revelation/vision (call it what you will) that you know a
"person" to whom the best possible descriptive concept you could apply
is "God"? I take it you are struck by the persona, the personability,
the closeness, the life-like (in the human sense) character of what is
called often "God"?

> We just have to go right ahead and be a person and
> relate to other persons, in faith.

Yes. But how could we be un-persons toward each other?

> Rather like relating to my wife.

I'd rather like to relate to your wife.

> I've given up trying to figure her out,

Have you ever wondered if she has given up trying to figure you out?

> draw up a theory on who she is
> and why, and based on that theory algorithmically (is that word
> allowed in here?)

Of course

> come up with what therefore I should do in each
> situation.

But that's the only thing you could do if you feel you want to stay
with your wife. Has she got algorithms locked in for dealing with you?
It's the sensible thing for any "person" to do in dealing with another
"person". Humans are pretty predictable machines after a while.

The other thing you can do is an OPV (other person's viewpoint) and
tell each other what you think the other knows or understands about
you. When you do this you can either correct each other's faulty
perceptions (not recommended - danger of argument) or listen awestruck
(highly recommended) as your worst fears are confirmed OR you are
amazed at how well your partner does understand you.

> I have to just be me

When were you NOT yourself Dear Tom?

> and it seems to usually work out,
> thankfully. Sorry I can't be more precise.

You've been perfectly precise

So - going back to God then, let's maybe do an OPV on him/her/it


If I can't do an OPV on God, then I'm not convinced that:

1. God is a person (100% convinced)

2. There is a God (74% convinced)

best regards,


42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

- Steven Wright



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