Re: Personal Identity and Memory [was Fwd: NDPR David Shoemaker, Personal Identity and Ethics: A Brief Introduction]

From: Brent Meeker <meekerdb.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:46:52 -0800

Stephen Paul King wrote:
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> From: "Brent Meeker" <meekerdb.domain.name.hidden>
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> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: NDPR David Shoemaker, Personal Identity and Ethics: A
> Brief Introduction]
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>> Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>>
>>> If the "copy" has no memory of being me then It's not me... or you
>>> mean there is something which is not memory but which is "me" (and
>>> render memory useless as primary property of the self) ?
>>>
>>> It is a matter of semantic but if you accept that memory is not what
>>> can be ascribe to "you" then "you/I/..." doesn't mean anything... in
>>> that sense you are me and vice-versa, and everyone is everyone but I
>>> don't see this as a theory of self identity.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Quentin
>>>
>> I tend to agree with Quentin that memories are an essential component of
>> personal identity. But that also raises a problem with ideas like
>> "observer moments" and "continuity". Almost all my memories are not
>> being remembered at an given time. Some I may not recall for years at a
>> time. I may significant periods of time in which I am not consciously
>> recalling any memories. So then how can memories and continuity be
>> essential? I practice we rely on continuity of the body and then ask,
>> "Does this body have (some) appropriate memories?"
>>
>> Brent
>>
>
> Hi Brent and Quentin,
>
> Could it be that it is the continuous possibility of recall from memory
> itself and not just the occasional recall acts that are important to
> continuity of P.I.?
>
> Stephen
Sure. But what provides that possibility - the causal (physical)
continuity of the brain and body.

Brent

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