Re: MGA 2

From: Mirek Dobsicek <m.dobsicek.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:36:50 +0100

Hello Bruno,

>>> I think you are correct, but allowing the observer to be mechanically
>>> described as obeying the wave equation (which solutions obeys to comp),
>>
>> Hmm well if you have a basis, yes; - but "naked" infinite-dimensional
>> Hilbert Space (the "everything" in QM)?
>
>
> You put the finger on a problem I have with QM. I ill make a confession:
> I don't believe QM is "really" turing universal.
> The universal quantum rotation does not generate any interesting
> computations!

Could you please elaborate a bit on the two above sentences. I am
missing a more context to understand where "really" points to. And with
the second sentence, I simply don't understand it.

> I am open, say, to the idea that quantum universality needs measurement,
> and this could only exists internally. So the "naked" infinidimensional
> Hilbert space + the universal wave (rotation, unitary transformation) is
> a simpler ontology than arithmetical truth.
> Yet, even on the vaccum, from inside its gives all the non linearities
> you need to build arithmetic ... and consciousness.

Cheers,
 mirek

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