Re: join post

From: Abram Demski <abramdemski.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:40:04 -0500

Russel,

Hmm, can't we simply turn any coding into a prefix-free-coding by
prefacing each code for a GTM with a number of 1s indicating the
length of the following description, and then a 0 signaling the
beginning of the actual description? I am not especially familiar with
the prefix issue, so please forgive me if I am wrong...

Also, I do not understand why there would be reason to suspect that
the probability distribution, once properly defined, would turn out to
be equivalent to the S-L prior. GTMs can formally represent more
things than TMs, so why would those things not end up in the
probability distribution?

--Abram Demski

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Russell Standish <lists.domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 02:55:08PM -0500, Abram Demski wrote:
>>
>> Russel,
>>
>> I do not see why some appropriately modified version of that theorem
>> couldn't be proven for other settings. As a concrete example let's
>> just use Schmidhuber's GTMs. There would be universal GTMs and a
>> constant cost for conversion and everything else needed for a version
>> of the theorem, wouldn't there be? (I am assuming things, I will look
>> up some details this afternoon... I have the book you refer to, I'll
>> look at the theorem... but I suppose I should also re-read the paper
>> about GTMs before making bold claims...)
>>
>> --Abram
>>
>
> IIRC, Schmidhuber's machines were non-prefix Turing machines. As such
> there may or may not be a probability distribution in the first
> place. Solomonoff's original proposal using universal Turing machine
> didn't work because the probability distribution could not be defined.
> If, however, a probility distribution could be defined, then it would
> probably end up being equivalent to the S-L universal prior.
>
> Cheers
>
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