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> >From: Russell Standish <R.Standish.domain.name.hidden>
> >To: fritzgriffith.domain.name.hidden (Fritz Griffith)
> >CC: everything-list.domain.name.hidden
> >Subject: Re: Heed Clarification on MW
> >Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:01:41 +1100 (EST)
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> >Fritz Griffith wrote:
> >
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> > > I would imagine that we could theoretically learn every variable that
> > > affects our decisions, but our brains are so complex that I would
> >imagine
> > > that there would be a lot more variables than we could ever expect. I
> >would
> > > also imagine that our brain is a very chaotic system, so that a hardly
> > > significant difference of initial states would result in a totally
> >different
> > > outcome. But if we were to learn every variable that controlled our
> > > decisions, and monitor those variables perfectly, then we should be able
> >to
> > > give probabilities to our decisions.
> > >
> > > This leads to an interesting problem, though: if we knew the probability
> >of
> > > our decisions, we should be able to act against those probabilities, and
> > > make a decision that is very unlikely. We could effectively choose to
> >be in
> > > either a low measure world or a high measure world.
> > >
> >
> >Precisely. This is why 3rd person predictions (which are based on well
> >defined probabilities) are of little help in predicting what you will
> >actually experience in the 1st person.
> >
> >A little anecdote. When I was a child, I was able to influence the way
> >cards and dice fell in games to give me an edge in a game. More
> >recently, I used the same technique to ensure I had a healthy child
> >(check out his photos on the Web if you're interested). Now these
> >statements are 1st person experiences, and definitely unprovable
> >(scientifically uncummunicable in Bruno's terms). This is an instance
> >of chosing lower probability outcomes, however the lower probabilities
> >are certainly no less than a couple of orders of magnitude lower than
> >the most probable outcome. I'm sure anyone can do this in the right
> >frame of mind (child's suspension of disbelief perhaps?) To do real
> >magic require many many orders of magnitude difference in
> >probabilities (say 10 orders - that's the sort of difference often
> >used in SSA like arguments) - that would surely require a wizard of
> >great power :)
>
> So you were actually able to control the probability of outcomes? What's
> the secret? I'd like to know how you did it. :)
>
All I do is repeat the desired for out come 3 times over (neither more
or less). However, I'm sure any type of meditative technique would
work as well provided you're convinced it will work.
> There could very well be a way to 'control' things with your mind (or
> however you did it), but I'm sure there would be a scientific explanation,
> and this mind control is a variable that we don't know about yet. So
> 'willing' something to occur would be taken into account when determining
> the probabilities of the outcome.
>
> Logically, 3rd person predictions SHOULD reflect what we actually experience
> in 1st person.
I don't think so. I don't believe I ever effected the 3rd person
probabilities - what I believe I was doing was affecting which branch
I ended up in. This is why it is a 1st person effect, and is
unprovable. I somehow doubt that this could ever be an explanation for
ESP, or psychic effects, unless it is an explanation for why some
people believe in these phenomena.
Cheers
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> >
> > Cheers
> >
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