Re: MGA 1

From: Bruno Marchal <marchal.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:05:49 +0100

Hi John,




> It boils down to my overall somewhat negative position (although
> I have no better one) of UDA, MPG, comp, etc. - all of them are
> products of HUMAN thinking and restrictions as WE can imagine
> the unfathomable existence (the totality - real TOE).
> I find it a 'cousin' of the reductionistic conventional sciences, just
> a bit 'freed up'. Maybe a distant cousin. Meaning: it handles the
> totality WITHIN the framework of our limited (human) logic(s).


I think that Human logic is already a progress compared to Russian, or
Belgian, or Hungarian, or American logic, or ...

And then you know how much I agree with you, once you substitute
"human" by "lobian" (where a lobian machine/number is a universal
machine who know she is universal, and bet she is a machine).


> Alas, we cannot do better.



I'm afraid so. Thanks for acknowledging.


> just want to take all this mental
> exercise with the grain of salt of "there may be more to all of it"


Sure. And if we take ourself too much seriously, we can miss the
ultimate cosmic divine joke (if there is one).



>
> what we cannot even fancy (imagine, fantasize of) today,
> with our mind anchored in our restrictions. (Including 'digital',
> 'numbers', learned wisdom, etc.).


Be careful and be open to your own philosophy. The idea that "digital"
and "numbers" (the concept, not our human description of it) are
restrictions could be due to our human prejudice. May be a machine
could one day believes this is a form of unfounded prejudicial
exclusion.

I hope you don't mind my frank attitude, and I wish you the best,

Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/




--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group.
To post to this group, send email to everything-list.domain.name.hidden
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscribe.domain.name.hidden
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en
-~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Received on Thu Nov 20 2008 - 15:06:03 PST

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.0 : Fri Feb 16 2018 - 13:20:15 PST