On 18 Nov 2008, at 15:03, A. Wolf wrote:
>
> Even if you could discretize the universe to a countable submodel
> (and I'm
> not certain you can), each step of the computation would take
> forever (each
> step is ordered by omega the way the stones are laid out). An
> infinite
> amount of time bounded by discrete steps isn't enough time to
> complete more
> than one step, based on the way the description is given.
i am not sure I understand. Are you thinking that the hero is in its
own simulation?
We could imagine that the Theory of Everything is given by a
Schroedinger-Dirac like equation applied to the quantum vacuum.
Then we can interpret the work of the hero as a dovetailing on the
solutions of that equation. It would build a quantum multiverse. Yet,
that cannot work.
And Telmo gave the reason. If we are machine (and we are machine if
the hero's emulator can start), then physics is a sum on a continuum
of computational histories, and nobody can write a program simulating
that. Only a person, being generated almost everywhere omega times, in
the deployment can "live" that, from inside. (for some others: omega
is aleph_0, the continuum = 2^aleph_0).
Bruno
>
>
> So that's one error. You could correct it by changing the order in
> which
> the stones are laid out, but it will still only work for universes
> in which
> space and time are quantized in a mathematically problematic way.
>
> Anna
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruno Marchal" <marchal.domain.name.hidden>
> To: <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:23 AM
> Subject: Little exercise
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A joke could hardly been wrong, yet, if taken seriously enough, a
>> joke
>> could be made more correct! (and probably less funny, but that's not
>> the point).
>>
>> How would you make "correct" the joke here:
>>
>> http://xkcd.com/505/
>>
>> Hint: step 7
>>
>> This question is addressed mainly to Jason and Kory, who, it seems to
>> me, have still a little problem with step 7, if I may say,
>>
>> Bruno
>>
>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> >
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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