On 24/10/2008, at 6:33 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> I believe emotions are very basic things. Just strong, overriding,
> biological responses. I'm sure animals have them too.
Without doubt
animals are all 'on the make' - without emotions you cannot have any
'leverage' over your kind
> How else would
> their brains develop to hunt, mate or whatever in a complex
> environment? The thing is, we humans also have the ability to
> intelectually analyze our own emotions. Given our higher cognitive
> capabilities, we feel wonder (another emotion) at the way our rational
> constructs are override sometimes.
Wonder is more of a feeling though - don't need wonder as a survival
mechanism
>
>
> I'm not sure about the distinction between feeling and emotions. My
> mother tongue is portuguese. In portuguese, the equivalent phrase to
> "you hurt my feelings!" is "magoaste-me!", which translated directly
> to "you hurt me!". So the feeling part appears to be just a
> non-universal cultural interpretation.
>
> Cheers,
> Telmo Menezes.
Telmo,
you could be right - this whole thing buzzes with cultural associations
my distinction is a forced one to be sure;
it is the distinction of the aesthete or artist. It is useful to see a
difference between simple feeling and powerful emotion if you are in
the artistic expression game
Artists love to 'intellectualise' about their inner qualia. They have
distinctions others find forced or artificial
that's fine
Imagine designing a fragrance for Dior - what kind of ruler do these
people use
I'll bet it has increments on it you and I have never heard of
Artists explore this vast terrain of our Aspect One of emotions and
feelings
Bach and Stravinsky give me feelings on the whole
Wagner gives me emotions
Why would you want to use a plebeian key like G Major for a theme as
grand as this, Telmo? Swap it for A flat major which will give it more
public-weight, more religiosity...
'aesthetic judgement' is what I am on about
Artists have a nose for it
It's artificiality is precisely it's survival value.
Give me more on why you think 'wonder' is an emotion and why I think
it is a 'feeling'
Somebody suggest a better word than 'feeling' for what I am describing
- I think we all know what emotions are
I feel this thread is becoming more interesting
Kim
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Received on Fri Oct 24 2008 - 04:51:09 PDT