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From: Fritz Griffith <fritzgriffith.domain.name.hidden>

Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:07:13 MST

I've done a little more research on MWI and QTI, and I have a few questions.

First of all, there is a theorem which states that choosing a random

number out of a set of n numbers, labelled 1 to n, will give a general idea

of the size of the set. For example, if the randomly chosen number is 7,

you can deduce that there is a high probability that the set does not

consist of very many numbers. But if you choose 1 billion, you know the set

is very large. This principle, I assume, (and read about, called the

Doomsday Principle), applies to us. Assuming you are an SAS, randomly

assigned to a single concioucness within this universe, then you must either

assume:

1. The set of past SAS's is infinite, and therefore there must have been

SAS's before the big bang.

or,

2. The set of future SAS's is finite.

If you do not assume either of these, then you must assume that the set of

past SAS's is finite, and the set of future SAS's is infinite. But the

chance of being randomly assigned to an SAS that does not live in a time

that has an infinite future and past set of SAS's is infinitely small, and

can therefore be discarded.

So either life has been going on forever and will always go on, or it

started at a certain point and will end at a certain point (which goes

against MWI).

Is this a proof that life has always existed?

Second question: when people talk about the quantum suicide experiment, they

talk about it as though only one universe, or only the likely ones, are

real. For example, some people say that the only thing stopping them from

committing quantum suicide is that they'll be leaving behind loved ones in

the universe in which they did die. But if every universe is real, then it

doesn't matter, because that universe will exist whether they commit quantum

suicide or not. It sounds like they are assuming that only two worlds are

real: the one in which they leave behind loved ones, and the one in which

they still survive. What is the right way to look at this?

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Received on Tue Dec 07 1999 - 03:09:09 PST

Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:07:13 MST

I've done a little more research on MWI and QTI, and I have a few questions.

First of all, there is a theorem which states that choosing a random

number out of a set of n numbers, labelled 1 to n, will give a general idea

of the size of the set. For example, if the randomly chosen number is 7,

you can deduce that there is a high probability that the set does not

consist of very many numbers. But if you choose 1 billion, you know the set

is very large. This principle, I assume, (and read about, called the

Doomsday Principle), applies to us. Assuming you are an SAS, randomly

assigned to a single concioucness within this universe, then you must either

assume:

1. The set of past SAS's is infinite, and therefore there must have been

SAS's before the big bang.

or,

2. The set of future SAS's is finite.

If you do not assume either of these, then you must assume that the set of

past SAS's is finite, and the set of future SAS's is infinite. But the

chance of being randomly assigned to an SAS that does not live in a time

that has an infinite future and past set of SAS's is infinitely small, and

can therefore be discarded.

So either life has been going on forever and will always go on, or it

started at a certain point and will end at a certain point (which goes

against MWI).

Is this a proof that life has always existed?

Second question: when people talk about the quantum suicide experiment, they

talk about it as though only one universe, or only the likely ones, are

real. For example, some people say that the only thing stopping them from

committing quantum suicide is that they'll be leaving behind loved ones in

the universe in which they did die. But if every universe is real, then it

doesn't matter, because that universe will exist whether they commit quantum

suicide or not. It sounds like they are assuming that only two worlds are

real: the one in which they leave behind loved ones, and the one in which

they still survive. What is the right way to look at this?

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