On 06 Jun 2008, at 23:35, Tom Caylor wrote:
> I guess I could see that it could be consistent that from each of our
> perspectives eventually we are the only one left in the mulitverse, if
> we were all cut-off from each other, essentially in separate universes
> or histories. But with all of the appealing aspects (that have been
> brought up in many contexts by many people in history) of an ontology
> based on relations rather than substance, I would think that a
> multiverse that ends in isolation would be a rather disappointing
> (seemingly contrary) conclusion of that ontology. Plus, I certainly
> wouldn't want to "live" like that. And I'd even argue that from a
> relational ontology perspective that would be equivalent to non-
> existence. How about an immortal life in relation to other persons?
Immortality itself is different from the third and first person points
of view;
I cannot tell. It could be that 1-immortality requires some fusion, or
merging, of all persons. This makes you "out of time and out of space"
at the "moment" before you made up singular personal history.
I have to introspect myself more deeply, or study S4Grz and its
aritmetical semantics for a much longer time ...
You ask a difficult question. But I don't think we separate, such
that each of us converge toward solipsistic very long histories, we
forget and merge histories too. (all this assuming comp ...)
> One consistent configuration is that we are all immortal and that part
> of this immortal being is something that is outside of what we can
> observe scientifically, including other persons' deaths.
I am with you. But we can address scientifically the question "does
self-introspecting machine refer correctly to something they can
recognize as being something they cannot observe in a third person
communicable (scientific, objective) way and yet still *know* that
they can make the experience of it (for example through prays,
reflexion, meditation, 1-self-introspection, starvation, accidents,
drugs, or some other (hopefully) genuine 3-self-manipulations, ...)?
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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