Re: Quantum Immortality = no second law

From: Michael Rosefield <rosyatrandom.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:45:07 +0100

It's not so much the input of energy, it's the production of more entropy
where the energy is taken from.

On 17/04/2008, Telmo Menezes <telmo.domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>
>
> I would like to argue that in setting this experiment, energy is being
> expended to prevent the increase in entropy, albeit not in an obvious
> way.
>
> It is a trivial observation that systems may be devised that prevent
> increases in entropy by paying energy costs. One example is an ice
> cube in the freezer.
>
> In the case of this experiment, and assuming MWI, we are creating a
> scenario where the atomic decay is not possible from the
> experimenter's perspective. However, the experimenter is setting a
> system that includes the rifle and the geiger counter. Both these
> devices need energy to operate. Maybe it's just a convoluted version
> of the ice cube in the freezer?
>
> Best regards,
> Telmo Menezes.
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:18 AM, nichomachus
>
> <Steven.Payne.Long.domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> >
>
> > In the description of the quantum immortality gedanken experiment, a
> > physicist rigs an automatic rifle to a geiger counter to fire into him
> > upon the detection of an atomic decay event from a bit of radioactive
> > material. If the many worlds hypothesis is true, the self-awareness of
> > the physicist will continue to find himself alive after any length of
> > time in front of his gun, since there exist parallel worlds where the
> > decay does not occur.
> >
> > On a microscopic scale this is analogous to the observing a reality in
> > which the second law of thermodynamics does not hold. for example,
> > since there is a non-zero probability that molecular interactions will
> > result in a decrease in entropy in a particular sealed volume under
> > observation, there exist histories in which this must be observed.
> >
> > This is never observed. Therefore the MWI is shown to be false.
> > >
> >
>
> >
>


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