Re: RE : Re: Discussion of the MUH

From: George Levy <>
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:09:26 -0800

Hi Brian

As Russell said, we have been discussing this topic for at least a
decade. We all respect each other. I am sure that Bruno did not mean
harm when he made his comment.

You bring up an interesting question: the relationship between Fuzzy
logic and the MUH and you state that Fuzzy logic is a superset of
deterministic logic. Isn't true that Fuzzy Logic can be implemented by
means of a Turing Machine? Since a Turing Machine is purely
deterministic it means that Fuzzy logic is actually a subset of logic.
Hence the ad hoc introduction of Fuzzy logic may be unnecessary in the
context of MUH.

I don't think that the indeterminacy that we are considering here is
fundamental or derives from an axiomatic approach. It is rather a
consequence of living in many worlds simultaneously. When "I" make a
measurement, a number of "I"'s make(s) a measurements. The result of the
measurement that each "I" perceive(s) defines the world where the "I"
actually am (is). As you can see English is not rich enough to talk
about "I" in the third person or in the plural.

If there is a need for Fuzzy Logic, it would have to be a kind of logic
adapted to deal with the MUH. I don't know enough to say if there is
such a logic.


Brian Tenneson wrote:
>> We get Tegmark on this list occasionally. He, like you, needs to
>> acquaint himself more with the core concepts of THIS discussion.
>> In his last post to us he admitted as much.
> By THIS discussion, did you mean the aspects of the connections to
> Fuzzy Logic and the MUH that I am discussing in THIS thread?
> Can we +please+ either talk about the first post on THIS thread or
> anything at least somewhat related or post in a different thread?
> I did not come here to argue about who is diverting the topic away.
> Please don't reply in THIS thread if you aren't going to discuss THIS
> topic (connections between Fuzzy Logic and the MUH). Thanks.
> I did not post my ideas in a random person's thread. If I did, I
> would be called a troll, perhaps, or at least, unnecessarily diverting
> the thread.
> It is insulting to me to be said I'm looking for attention. Why use
> THIS thread's bandwidth to analyze my psychological makeup?
> Thanks.
> >

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