Last post before the key post (was OM = SIGMA_1) 1bis

From: Bruno Marchal <marchal.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:47:29 +0100

Mirek,

Le 28-nov.-07, à 17:32, Mirek Dobsicek a écrit :

>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> I'm ready. Luckily, it is not long time ago, I've received my
> university
> degree in CS, so it was rather easy to follow :-)
>
> Sincerely,
> Mirek


Thanks for telling me that you are ready. Now I feel a bit guilty
because today and tomorrow I get unexpected work, and next week I am
teaching again.
I hope that those who have no university degree in CS have been able to
follow the thread too.

I will try to resume the last exercise tomorrow, (one last post on
Cantor's diagonal), and then, I will write, during next week, the key
post, which will prove an absolutely fundamental theorem on the
Universal Machines, a theorem without which UDA would be stuck in the
sixth step, and without which the lobian interview would not make
sense. The theorem says that ALL universal machines are insecure or
imperfect. I guess some of you can already guess or produce the proof
(in company of a general definition of "secure machine", 'course).


Torgny,

You should be clearer about when you work *in* your ultrafinistic
theory and when you work in its metatheory. If not, Quentin is right to
ask you not to mention any sort of "infinite" of any kind. Most of the
time, it is very hard to make sense of your approach, due to the lack
of a clear distinction between the ultrafinistic theory and the
informal metatheory you do refer to, very often.
Note that without the movie graph (the 8th step of the UDA), comp
remains coherent *only* through an explicitly physicalist version of
ultrafinitism and an explicitly dualist theory of Mind (perhaps you
should collaborate with Marc?). Mind would need matter (but then why,
and what is it?), and the UDA would not go through because we would
live in a unique and then very little universe. I guess everythingers
would be skeptical at the start, here. Also the quantum facts are going
in an opposite direction, imo.
Actually, the movie-graph prevents such a move, I think. We can go back
on this, later. To be sure I am open to critics there, I am not
entirely satisfied with my presentation of the argument, and both
George and Russell did succeed in making me thinking a lot more on that
issue, or of the way to present it perhaps (more than I was
expecting).

Bruno

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/


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