On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 06:11:32PM -0700, Wei Dai wrote:
>
> Youness Ayaita wrote:
> > Directly speaking: Since all observers must expect to get their next
> > observer moments out of the same ensemble of observer moments, there
> > is no reason to insist on different preferences.
>
> Youness, ASSA does not mean what you think, that "all observers must expect
> to get their next observer moments out of the same ensemble of observer
> moments." What it actually says is that each observer should reason as if
> his observer moment was randomly selected from some distribution.
This is actually the SSSA, as originally defined by Bostrom. The ASSA
is the SSSA applied to "next observer moments".
I don't think Youness is meaning "acting" when he says "expect". I
expect he means "reason" :)
>
> ASSA doesn't say anything about what to expect for the "next" observer
> moment. The type of reasoning you can do with ASSA does not depend on the
> concept of a "next" observer moment at all.
>
> I think what you have done is created a new philosophical assumption, that
> says each observer should act (as opposed to reason) as if he expects his
> next observer moment to be randomly selected from a universal distribution.
> (This is a bit reminiscent to John Rawls's veil of ignorance.) To avoid
> confusion, let's call it something else besides ASSA.
>
Lets not. Let's use Bostrom's orginal term SSSA for what you think the
ASSA is.
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Received on Thu Oct 04 2007 - 22:40:34 PDT