Re: The physical world is real

From: 1Z <peterdjones.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:17:58 -0000

On 24 Sep, 06:46, marc.ged....domain.name.hidden wrote:
> On Sep 23, 10:39 pm, Youness Ayaita <younes....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>
> > There have always been two ways to interpret the interrelationship
> > between the physical world and our minds.
>
> There's a lot more than two ways.
>
> >The first one is to consider
> > the physical world to be fundamental; from this perspective, the
> > appearance of the mind is to be understood with the help of some
> > neurological theory that maps physical states of the brain to states
> > of the mind or observer moments.
>
> Not neccesserily. There are several possible variations on taking the
> physical world to be fundamental. Strong materialism does not map
> physical states to observer moments - strong materialism - or
> 'eliminativism' - says that observer moments are merely a human
> construct we use to describe what are really physical processs.
> According to this doctrine, you can't rightly talk about observer
> moments at all. What you have described above is weak materialism -
> weak materialism - or property dualism - would agree that the physical
> world is fundamental, but allow that observer moments are still real
> 'ontological primatives' which attach to (map to) the physical. See
> my next paragraph below.

There is another option which you have not considered.
Most materialists would say that OMs are identical to some physical
state.



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