On Aug 28, 6:31 pm, "Torgny Tholerus" <tor....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> marc.ged....domain.name.hidden skrev:
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> > (7) From (3) mathematical concepts are objectively real. But there
> > exist mathematical concepts (inifinite sets) which cannot be explained
> > in terms of finite physical processes.
>
> How can you prove that infinite sets exists?
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> Torgny Tholerus
Greg Cantor showed that they were indispensible for further progress
in mathematics (See 'Cantor' or Rudy Rucker 'Infinity and the
Mind' (1982). From (1) and (2) , (3) (reality of infinite sets)
follows.
But this is goes beyond what is necessery for the actual argument that
subjective experiences are non-material. It was simply given as an
example of a mathematical concept for which it is absolutely clear-cut
that the concept cannot be explained in physical terms.
All that is neccessery for the argument is the point made in (4) -
that 'patterns' are not equivalent to specific physical properties and
cannot be objectivity measured (Ray Kurzweil agrees with this
conclusion - see his book). Then from the rest, the conclusion is
proven.... subjective experiences are non-material.
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Received on Tue Aug 28 2007 - 04:52:43 PDT