Re: Why Objective Values Exist

From: Russell Standish <lists.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:42:44 +1000

Still sounds like emergence to me.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 10:23:18PM -0700, marc.geddes.domain.name.hidden wrote:
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> On Aug 22, 4:41 pm, Russell Standish <li....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> > That's a pity. I thought it might be something comprehensible, rather
> > than just plain mysterious.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
>
> The ida of property dualism is very simple:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_dualism
>
> It just means that the same underlying reality can manifest itself as
> multiple properties. Let me give a couple of analogies (bear in mind
> that these are only analogies). Take a glass of water 50% fill. It
> has two properties:
>
> 'Glass Half Fill'
> 'Glas Half Empty'
>
> Same thing, two different properties.
>
> Look at the picture here:
> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/YoungGirl-OldWomanIllusion.html
>
> Same picture two different perspectives:
>
> 'Old Lady'
> 'Young Woman'
>
> --
>
> Multiple perspectives of the same reality, all perspectives equally
> valid. Neither perspective is more fundamental than the others.
> Remember the rough analogies above and now move to my proposed real
> exmaple:
>
> 'Mathematical Description'
> 'Physical Description'
> 'Teleological Description'
>
> Multiple properties, same reality. All of these three kinds of
> descriptions are on the same level. Nothing is 'emerging' from
> anything. All three perspectives are equally real and no one of them
> is fundamental.
>
> That's it. Really simple.
>
>
>
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