Re: Pedagogy question (was: out-of-line)

From: Russell Standish <lists.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:46:48 +1000

On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 03:08:18PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Russell. Note that paying is not a problem for me, as far as the
> translation is professionnal. Some attempts have been made by willing
> amateurs, and despite I appreciate the effort, I have not been
> satisfied with the result, so I don't want to push anybody on this.

I would suggest tackling a chapter at a time - that way you can see
early on whether this will work. Do you have a word count already?
The work I do for Online English typically might take me 1-2 hours for
a 5000 word paper. I would guess your thesis would have to be at least
100,000 words, wouldn't it.

> We can think about it. Also, I would at least try to submit such a
> translation to some well known publisher (Reidel, World Scientific,
> Springer ...) before.

Absolutely. Its fun to build up a collection of rejection letters. And
you never know, you might win the lottery that the mainstream
publishing system is these days.

> I am perhaps just presomptuous, I don't know.
>
> But I will take your suggestion into account,
>
> Best,
>
> Bruno
>
>
> Le 26-juil.-07, à 03:48, Russell Standish a écrit :
>
> >
> > I assume you mean you are interested in doing a translation. I'm happy
> > to assist, within limitations of doing my normal work. It would give
> > me the motivation to read the "Brussels thesis". Incidently, one of my
> > jobs is translating "fractured English" into proper idiomatic English,
> > for which I get paid AUD 31.50 per 1000 words (about EUR 20 at today's
> > rates). I'm not asking to be paid, but obviously something that I do
> > as a labour of love will take longer than a paying proposition. What
> > it does illustrate is that I would first use Google translation to get
> > the fractured English, then work on converting the to something more
> > readable.
> >
> > Once translated, we can use the company Lulu.com to publish it as a
> > printed copy available through Amazon.com and other online
> > booksellers. Lulu don't charge any upfront fees, and still come out
> > with a list price similar to my book, although yours would command a
> > higher price as it has more pages.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 04:15:54PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> >>
> >> Actually, after the computability meeting in Siena, I have change my
> >> mind about Russell Standish idea that "Conscience et Mecanisme" should
> >> be translated in English. It is not at all outdated indeed, and
> >> contains more than 400 pages just on the Church thesis impact. Comp is
> >> mainly Church thesis (more so when you get the idea that the lobian
> >> interview eliminates almost completely the need for the thought
> >> experiences and thus the need of the "yes doctor" hypothesis. I have
> >> to
> >> write more paper on Church thesis, or at least consecrate more lines
> >> of
> >> explanations on that. (Despite people like Emil Post or Judson Webb
> >> seems to me to have already well understood this quite well, ref in my
> >> thesis).
> >>
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