Torgny Tholerus wrote:
> Brent Meeker skrev:
>> Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>
>>> Le 09-juil.-07, à 17:41, Torgny Tholerus a écrit :
>>>
>> ...
>>
>>> Our universe is the result of some set of rules. The interesting
>>> thing is to discover the specific rules that span our universe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Assuming comp, I don't find plausible that "our universe" can be the
>>> result of some set of rules. Even without comp the "arithmetical
>>> universe" or arithmetical truth (the "ONE" attached to the little Peano
>>> Arithmetic Lobian machine) cannot be described by finite set of rules.
>>>
>>
>> But it can be "the result of" a finite set of rules. Arithmetic results from Peano's axioms, but a complete description of arithmetic is impossible.
>>
> That is exactly what I wanted to say. You don't need to have a complete
> description of arithmetic. Our universe can be described by doing a
> number of computations from a finite set of rules. (To get to the
> current view of our universe you have to do about 10**60 computations
> for every point of space...)
How did you arrive at that number?
Brent Meeker
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Received on Fri Jul 13 2007 - 13:54:56 PDT