Re: Some thoughts from Grandma

From: Brent Meeker <meekerdb.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:32:18 -0700

David Nyman wrote:
> On Jul 6, 2:56 pm, Bruno Marchal <marc....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>
>> It
>> is a unexpected (by me) discovery that quanta belongs to that sharable
>> first person view (making the comp-QM a bit more psychological than
>> some Many-Worlder would perhaps appreciate.
>
> Doesn't this strike you as perhaps consistent with what I've been
> saying about self-relation, or reflexive existence? IOW, quanta - as
> they appear to *us* (how else?) - exist reflexively. Comp, like any
> 'TOE', is a "gods' eye view", and I've been trying to convince Torgny
> that we shouldn't fool ourselves into mistaking such conceptions for
> modes of existing. We may nonetheless ask - with great care - "what
> might the consequences be if our situation were - in some (tricky)
> sense - to look like this from a gods' eye view?" But this is a
> (tricky, tricky) mode of enquiry, not a mode of existing.
>
> 'The One' is also a mode of enquiry (no less tricky, of course): it
> seems to suggest that the mode of existing of both the qualia and the
> quanta may be ineliminably reflexive: the splintering of a singular
> process of self-reflexion. Self: because there is no other;
> reflexion: because there is no other relation.
>
> David

I draw a complete blank when I read your use of the word "reflexive". What exactly do you mean? How would you distinguish reflexive from non-reflexive existence? Do numbers exist reflexively? Do somethiings exist non-reflexively? What is "self-reflexion"? What's the operational definition of reflexive?

Brent Meeker

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