Re: Asifism

From: Bruno Marchal <marchal.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:41:14 +0200

Le 01-juin-07, à 14:35, Torgny Tholerus a écrit :

> I am unconscious.
>
> I have no mind. I have no feelings. I have no perceptions. I am not
> thinking. I am just a machine that claims that I am conscious. The
> only thing that happens is a lot of chemical reactions in my brain.
> (Or rather, there are a lot of mathematical relations...)
>
> I just behave AS IF I am conscious. If you interview me, I will
> answer that I am conscious. I will strongly claim that I am thinking,
> and that is the only thing I am really sure of.
>
> But that is a lie.


If you are unconscious, you should have said that it is WRONG, not
that it is a lie. That would contradict your "unconsciousness". By
saying "lie" you did betray your consciousness, imo.
Also, by saying "I am not conscious", are you sure that you behave like
if you were conscious?


> The only thing that exists is a lot of protons, neutrons, and
> electrons reacting with each other inside my brain.


Are you *sure*?
By the way, are you more sure about proton than about your belief in
proton? What would that mean?



>
> I behave AS IF I am conscious because the natural selection has
> favored that type of behavior.


OK, but this rise the question: why?

Another question: if consciousness does not exist, what do you mean by
"behaving AS IF I am conscious"?

(but thanks you for actually saying this only about yourself and not us
:)

One more question: supposing you are correct, is it ethically wrong to
torture you? Is it ethically wrong to torture an entity without
consciousness (supposing we could be sure of that) even if it acts like
it was conscious?


Bruno


http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/

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