Re: Asifism

From: Stathis Papaioannou <>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:53:01 +1000

On 01/06/07, Torgny Tholerus <> wrote:
> Stathis Papaioannou skrev:
> On 01/06/07, Torgny Tholerus <> wrote:
> I behave AS IF I am conscious because the natural selection has favored
> > that type of behavior.
> >
> Which implies you really are conscious, because otherwise why would
> evolution have gone to the trouble of making *me* conscious if it could have
> got away without it?
> It did got away without it... ;-)

I assure you, at least one entity in the universe is conscious: me. If
evolution could have made me a zombie, it would have. Therefore, it seems
reasonable to assume that evolution couldn't help but grant me consciousness
as a side-effect or epiphenomenon, the real prize being intelligent
behaviour. There are some philosophers (eg. Daniel Dennett) who would argue
that consciousness is *nothing but* this intelligent behaviour, and the idea
of a zombie is logically incoherent, but I'm not entirely convinced that
this is right.

Stathis Papaioannou
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