On 3/19/07, Brent Meeker <meekerdb.domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>
>
> Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 3/19/07, *Brent Meeker* <meekerdb.domain.name.hidden
> > <mailto:meekerdb.domain.name.hidden>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Each observer moment lives only transiently and is not in
> telepathic
> > > communication with any other OMs, whether related to it or not.
> The
> > > effect (or illusion) of continuity of consciousness is adequately
> > > explained by each OM remembering past experiences. These past
> > > experiences need not have happened at all, let alone happened in
> the
> > > remembered order and in the remembered body.
> >
> > It seems you are simultaneously asserting that an OM is an isolated,
> > experience of one thing and contrarily that it includes memories of
> > past experiences. That makes it a compound. If an OM can be such
> > a compound then it can include memory of which OM was immediately
> > before it and OMs will form a chain (as suggested by Bertrand
> > Russell) and define mental "time". Under comp this chain may branch
> > (and merge) but it would not include isolated OMs that didn't
> > include memory of a predecessor.
> >
> >
> > The memories of past experiences are called real memories if they arose
> > in the usual causally linked fashion, in the same brain. However, in
> > theory they could be false memories. There is no way to tell, from
> > within a particular moment of experience, whether remembered moments
> > occurred in the remembered order or even occurred at all in the real
> world.
> >
> > Stathis Papaioannou
>
> I understand that. But if OMs are isolated, unitary experiences, then
> there is no way to explain 'consistent continuation' as in Bruno's
> comp. OMs that don't happen to be remembering some other OM are
> disconnected and are equally consistent and inconsistent with any other
> OM. They aren't able to create even the illusion of continuity.
Sure: continuity is created by memory. If there are OMs which don't remember
being you then they are not going to be part of your stream of
consciousness. they might be part of someone else's stream of consciousness,
or just stand in isolation, with no future or past. I imagine this is what
it would be like in the end stages of dementia.
Stathis Papaioannou
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