Re: computer pain

From: John M <jamikes.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:59:40 -0500

Stathis and Bruno:
just a proposed correction to Sathis's
"...build a machine that wanted to be free and was afraid of dying, and then threaten it with slavery and death."
Change to: OR instead of and.

That also takes care of Bruno's:
> > there is no contradiction in a willing slave being intelligent.< <
"...> But a "real" slave is, I would say by definition, not willing to be slave.< "
If the question of 'slavery or death' arises, an intelligent and life-loving person would accept (willing?) slavery.
Spartacus did not. I survived a commi regime.
We seem too narrowly labeling a "slave".

John M
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  From: Stathis Papaioannou
  To: everything-list.domain.name.hidden
  Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:22 PM
  Subject: RE: computer pain

  Bruno Marchal writes:

> Le 30-déc.-06, à 07:53, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit :
>
> > there is no contradiction in a willing slave being intelligent.
>
>
> It seems to me there is already a contradiction with the notion of
> "willing slave".
> I would say a willing slave is just what we call a worker.
> Or something related to sexual imagination ...
> But a "real" slave is, I would say by definition, not willing to be
> slave.

  OK, a fair point. Do you agree that if we built a machine that would
  happily obey our every command, even if it lead to its own destruction,
  that would (a) not be incompatible with intelligence, and (b) not cruel?
  For in order to be cruel we would have to build a machine that wanted
  to be free and was afraid of dying, and then threaten it with slavery and
  death.

  Stathis Papaioannou

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