Re: Evil ? (was: Hypostases (was: Natural Order & Belief)

From: Brent Meeker <>
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:36:06 -0800

Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> Jef Allbright writes:
>> My personal experience is that there's no paradox at all if one is
>> willing to fully accept that within any framework of description there
>> is absolutely no difference at all between a person and a zombie, but
>> even the most philosophically cognizant, being evolved human organisms,
>> will snap back to defending the existence of a 1st person point of view
>> even though it isn't detectable or measurable and has absolutely no
>> effect on the physical world.

Like quarks it's unobservable, but it is in the ontology of a model that has good empirical support. Detection and measure are often indirect.

> I don't know about "no effect" on the external world. If the mental
> supervenes on certain physical processes, that means that without these
> physical processes there can be no mental, and without the mental there
> can be no physical processes. It works both ways.

Right. Zombies may well be impossible.

Brent Meeker

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