RE: UDA revisited

From: Stathis Papaioannou <>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:42:33 +1100

Colin Hales writes:
> I would also predict that a UD reified in our universe would be like
> that...'not much' consciousness (the consciousness of the computer = that
> of which it is made, not that of the program). There are no phenomena
> reified as a result of the UD operating. The only phenomena happening are
> the machinations of the hardware of the UD.
> BTW I am not saying that abstract computation of some sort cannot be
> involved in "artificial general intelligence". What I am saying is that
> "bolted to" the computation are non-negotiable aspects that have to be
> done in real phenomena or the machine will have no phenomenal
> consciousness. The phenomena are of a type found in brain material.
> Conversely the sort of universe that make brain material have
> consciousness is not madeof platomic arithmetical entities.
> In one sense 'comp', I gather, is the claim that computation of an
> abstracted realm-X done in realm-Y can create realm-X phenomena. By
> extension it means 'arithmetic realism' of the classical platonic kind is
> false.
It still isn't clear to me whether you believe it is possible for a digital computer
to be conscious or not.
Stathis Papaioannou
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