Peter Jones writes:
> > > Errmm.. if by "recover" we are able to replay them as
> > > conscious (re)experiences. The memory-trace need
> > > only contain time-stamps indicating the order
> > > and timing of the contents of the experience. The
> > > total structure of time-stamped-stored-experience
> > > can co-exist simultaneously, just as a the frames
> > > of a movie stored on a shelf co-exist simultaneously.
> > >
> > > The stored experience is not conscious in itself
> > > any more than the stored movie involves any (ilusion of) motion.
> > >
> > > In both cases, that comes in with the recovery.
> >
> > That's not an accurate analogy. For a start, a film in the can is not
> > equivalent to a film on the screen sliced up into frames because there
> > is no projector and no screen in the can.
>
> Would it help if there were?
>
> > Then there is the fact that if
> > you did project one frame in one cinema, the next frame in another
> > cinema, and so on, the analogy would still not hold because it leaves
> > out the observer. To make the analogy work, you would have to show
> > one frame to an observer in one cinema, suspend his consciousness
> > while you move him and the film to another cinema, show him another
> > frame, supend his consciousness again while you move to a third cinema
> > for the third frame, and so on. The observer would then see the whole
> > film, and if the cinemas were identical, would not even know he had been
> > moved, other than due to mere technical problems.
>
> I am not (here) arguing that time-slicing is necessarily noticeable,
> I am arguing that the dynamism of a recovered memory doesn't imply
> that the stored memory trace itself is dynamic.
I thought we were arguing about whether the sensation of continuity of
consciousness could survive this sort of time-slicing, and whether it would be
possible from the inside to tell how the time slices were organised in time and
space, given no external cues.
Stathis Papaioannou
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