Bruno Marchal wrote:
> Le 19-oct.-06, à 13:58, 1Z a écrit :
>
> >
> >
> > David Nyman wrote:
> >> 1Z wrote:
> >>
> >>> This *is* ecumenicism. The buck stops here. What higher
> >>> court of appeal is there , than consideration of the nature of
> >>> EVERYTHING?
> >>
> >> Touché!
> >>
> >>> If Bruno isn't reifying numbers, he's in trouble.
> >>
> >> And if the materialist isn't reifying the observables, he's right in
> >> there with him.
> >
> > Obviously the materialist is reifying matter.
> > But then we can *see* material things.
>
>
>
> You are lucky. I see *appearance* of matter, but I don't see existing
> primary matter.
Just as I see numbers written in chalk on blackbaords, but not
Platonically existing ones.
>The existence of this one has to be postulated. But I
> have already criticize your "non-definition" of primary matter.
Just as I have criticised your non-definition of Platonic existence.
> I find
> that concept far more nebulous than consciousness for example, which
> certainly exists as a receptacle of the appearance. I don't doubt about
> those appearance.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Reification pers e is not the problem; the problem
> > is reifying what is invisible/uninteractive.
>
>
> I agree.
Of course you think it applies ot primary matter, and I
think it applies to Platonic objects.
> Bruno
>
> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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Received on Fri Oct 20 2006 - 10:36:20 PDT