Re: Maudlin's argument

From: Russell Standish <r.standish.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:57:45 +1000

On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 02:25:08PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> > The quantum
> > world in which we live the counterfactuals are always realized with
> > some probability.
>
>
> And I guess that is why Russell Standish believes that the Maudlin type
> of argument could be just an argument in favor or the (physical)
> multiverse (like UDA could be as well in that case). But this does not
> follow because if the counterfactuals are needed to be simulated, it
> would just mean, assuming comp, that the level of emulation has not
> been correctly chosen. Just redo Maudlin's thought experiment with his
> program PI being a quantum program simulated by a classical Olympia if
> you want to be sure of this.
>
> Bruno
>

It doesn't really work, because the Multiverse is too simple an
object. We would never say your universal dovetailer was conscious for
example, so doing the Maudlin on it will not tell us anything
interesting.

We can conclude that consciousness must appear as an internal POV
phenomenon (assuming a MV type structure, or equivalently COMP which
implies the latter via the UDA).

Cheers

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