Peter Jones writes:
> > > > Saying that there is a material substrate which has certain properties is just a working
> > > > assumption to facilitate thinking about the real world. It may turn out that if we dig into
> > > > quarks very deeply there is nothing "substantial" there at all, but solid matter will still be
> > > > solid matter, because it is defined by its properties, not by some mysterious raw physical
> > > > substrate.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am not using the Bare Substrate to explian "solidity", which is as
> > > you say
> > > a matter of properties/behaviour.
> > >
> > > I am using it to explain contingent existence, and (A series) time.
> >
> > We could say that matter is that which feels solid, reflects light, distorts spacetime etc.
> > and leave it at that.
>
> However, that is mere behaviour. I need a defiition
> which digs deeper than behaviour,and I have one.
All I see is mere behaviour. When I say that something is as real as this desk in front of me, I am
saying that it is as real as the mere mere behaviour in front of me - as opposed to the desk in my
dreams, which lacks such behaviour. Do you think we really disagree about desks? If it looks like a
desk, feels like a desk etc., then it's a desk. It doesn't add anything to say that it also contains
"essence of real desk" to distinguish it from dream desks, because dream desks differ from real
desks in other ways.
Stathis Papaioannou
_________________________________________________________________
Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail.
http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d
--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group.
To post to this group, send email to everything-list.domain.name.hidden
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list-unsubscribe.domain.name.hidden
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list
-~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Received on Tue Aug 29 2006 - 05:42:02 PDT