RE: Rép: ROADMAP (well, not yet really...

From: Stathis Papaioannou <>
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:26:50 +1000

Peter Jones writes:

> > Saying that there is a material substrate which has certain properties is just a working
> > assumption to facilitate thinking about the real world. It may turn out that if we dig into
> > quarks very deeply there is nothing "substantial" there at all, but solid matter will still be
> > solid matter, because it is defined by its properties, not by some mysterious raw physical
> > substrate.
> I am not using the Bare Substrate to explian "solidity", which is as
> you say
> a matter of properties/behaviour.
> I am using it to explain contingent existence, and (A series) time.

We could say that matter is that which feels solid, reflects light, distorts spacetime etc.
and leave it at that. Having these properties is necessary and sufficient for what we call
existence, and it doesn't add anything to postulate a "bare substrate", any more than it
adds anything to postulate an undetectable ether.

Stathis Papaioannou
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