1Z wrote:
> > > AR as a claim about truth is implied by comoputationalism, and is
> > > not enough to support the real (=as real as I am) existence
> > > of the UD.
> >
> >
> > It is you who come up with a notion of real existence.
>
> I am starting with the reality my own existence.
>
> That is an *empirical* fact.
>
> > You are reifying
> > I don't know which theory.
>
> That's because it is empirical! Whatever theory explains
> or doesn't explain my existence, I exist.
>
> > >
> > > AR as a claim about existence is
> > > enough to support the real (=as real as I am) existence
> > > of the UD, but is not impied by computationalism.
> >
> >
> > And my WHOLE point is that it does not have to be that way.
>
> But you don't really address the existence question. You just loosely
> assume it is the
> same thing as truth.
Could I appeal to Bruno at this juncture to address this point
directly?! At several places in our own dialogues, Bruno, you've
implied that your 'number theology' was an 'as if' postulate, because
(if I've understood) you are concerned to see how much can be explained
by starting from this particular set of assumptions. I don't believe
that you are claiming they are 'true' in an exclusive sense, rather
that they are enlightening. Is this a correct interpretation of your
position, or is there further nuance?
David
> Bruno Marchal wrote:
> > Le 25-août-06, à 23:24, 1Z a écrit :
> >
> > > AR as a claim about truth is implied by comoputationalism, and is
> > > not enough to support the real (=as real as I am) existence
> > > of the UD.
> >
> >
> > It is you who come up with a notion of real existence.
>
> I am starting with the reality my own existence.
>
> That is an *empirical* fact.
>
> > You are reifying
> > I don't know which theory.
>
> That's because it is empirical! Whatever theory explains
> or doesn't explain my existence, I exist.
>
> > >
> > > AR as a claim about existence is
> > > enough to support the real (=as real as I am) existence
> > > of the UD, but is not impied by computationalism.
> >
> >
> > And my WHOLE point is that it does not have to be that way.
>
> But you don't really address the existence question. You just loosely
> assume it is the
> same thing as truth.
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